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berowl Admin
Number of posts : 73 Age : 37 Localisation : France Registration date : 2007-01-11
| Subject: Eragon's father Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:36 pm | |
| "While two may share two, and one of two is certainly one, one might be two."
While two sons (Eragon and Murtagh) "may" share the same two parents (Morzan and Selena), And one parent of two parents, the Mother-Selena, is certainly the same one parent of both sons, One parent, the Father, might be two Fathers (Brom and Morzan) each having one of the sons.
What in the world could this riddle be about if it doesn't support the two-father theory?
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Gingerale2711
Number of posts : 848 Localisation : USA, UNITED STATES, AMERICA, U KNOW, THAT PLACE :-) Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:31 am | |
| i posted this earlier, but anyway, i agree that brom could be eragon's father. reason: 1. brom said he knew eragon's mother long enough to miss her. 2. selena was probably missing long enough from morzan's castle long enough for her to go to her brother in carvahall, meet brom, fall in love with brom, and, 9 months later, eragon could be born. 3. Somewhere it said in the books that it was that loving brom was the undoing of (the woman brom loved). when selena went back to morzan's castle, she was distraught because she knew morzan would hurt her or kill her or something but luckily he wasn't there(i think that is wat it said) but she was so ill that she died soon anyway. therefore no one in the ura baen found out eragon was alive because she died so soon after she got there. 4. and last but not least the poem berowl posted above supports this. first it says, while 2 may share 2. this means that while murtagh and eragon may share selena and morzan. next it says, one of two is certaintly one, it means that selena is certainly one parent. then it says, one might be 2, which means something like father might be actually 2 different fathers. therefore eragon and murtagh would be half brothers. and i didn't figure this out all by myself, the people at the old blog thing figured it out first i luv all the smileys | |
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berowl Admin
Number of posts : 73 Age : 37 Localisation : France Registration date : 2007-01-11
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:57 pm | |
| "Son and Father alike, both blind as bats". page 280 of Eldest: (Oromis) "Morzan was my greatest failure. Brom idolized him. He never left his side, never contradicted him, and never believed that he could best Morzan in any venture. Morzan, I'm ashamed to admit-for it was within my power to stop-was aware of this and took advantage of Brom's devotion in a hundred different ways. He grew so proud and cruel that I considered separating him from Brom. But before I could, Morzan helped Galbatorix to steal a dragon hatchling, Shruikan, to replace the one Galbatorix had lost, killing the dragon's original rider in the process. Morzan and Galbatorix then fled together, sealing our doom. You cannot begin to fathom the effect Morzan's betrayal had on Brom until you understand the depth of Brom's affection for him. And when Galbatorix at last revealed himself and the Forsworn killed Brom's dragon, Brom focused all of his anger and pain on the one who he felt was responsible for the destruction of his world: Morzan." Brom was blind to Morzan's betrayal, and Eragon was blind to Murtagh's betrayal. | |
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Phoenix
Number of posts : 1772 Age : 34 Localisation : uNiTeD sTaTeS Registration date : 2007-02-09
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:22 am | |
| wow berowl that makes a lot of sense it kind of like its running in generations which means if that theory os correct and eragon is like brom what is eragon gonna do toget vengeance on murtaugh | |
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berowl Admin
Number of posts : 73 Age : 37 Localisation : France Registration date : 2007-01-11
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:26 am | |
| yes, and kill him but I believe in forgiveness, especially from Eragon, as Murtagh hasn't choose his path. | |
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jerry_elder
Number of posts : 4 Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:10 am | |
| I agree with you aLL, i think eragon's dad is Brom, a reason is that in the books Angela said Brom had failed doing everything, even falling in love, i think he fell in love with Eragon's mother, Selena, and they had Eragon and Brom didn't know it. | |
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Phoenix
Number of posts : 1772 Age : 34 Localisation : uNiTeD sTaTeS Registration date : 2007-02-09
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:01 pm | |
| i hope Eragon doesnt kill Murtaugh and at this point im not even sure hes capable but i think murtaugh still has a chance at being good. And i to think tht brom fell in love with selena and then morzan found out and thts why Brom and Morzan fought it out. it makes a lot of sense at least to me anyways | |
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greenmagicpixie13
Number of posts : 1648 Age : 33 Localisation : La Push, Washington. Registration date : 2007-02-20
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:30 am | |
| Dude, Its not like the name of hia father really affects who he is and whats going to become of him.His fathers name cant change his destiny. Because both options for his father are dead, they cant do any harm to him. So, I dont really care who it is, and if you care, more power to you. | |
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christlina
Number of posts : 2650 Age : 32 Localisation : in the clouds Registration date : 2007-03-06
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:33 pm | |
| no offence but it kinda does matter....Blagden the white raven said that eragon was just like his father, theres alot of similaritys between eragon and brom if ya think about it and why would salina run, she didnt run when she was pregnant with murtagh...it would be cool if brom was his dad...oh and brom said he knew salina who knows?? | |
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dragonfire
Number of posts : 5 Localisation : dural sydeny nsw Registration date : 2007-02-17
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:00 am | |
| Hmmm... CP might throw a twist like that in... And after Eragon battled Murtagh he asked Saphira if Brom thought he would emulate Morzan. She refused to answer! | |
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Gingerale2711
Number of posts : 848 Localisation : USA, UNITED STATES, AMERICA, U KNOW, THAT PLACE :-) Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:32 pm | |
| ya, that is another thing toward the "brom being eragon's dad" theory. i think saphira knows something that she isn't telling eragon about his father(even if it isn't brom, but i think it is). she's was acting very suspicious when eragon was talking about himself and morzan at the battle of burning plains. | |
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:01 am | |
| Well, it would be alot better than Morzan being his dad! | |
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christlina
Number of posts : 2650 Age : 32 Localisation : in the clouds Registration date : 2007-03-06
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:42 pm | |
| this is why people should get married before they have kids its wayyyy to confusing lol I think that eragon would be extremely deperessed if he found out brom was his father. question how old is blagden!!!!??? that could answer all our questions once and for all! if he wasnt around when morzan was then he wouldnt say that eragon was just like morzan would he?? somebody give me an age people! im so confused... | |
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Gingerale2711
Number of posts : 848 Localisation : USA, UNITED STATES, AMERICA, U KNOW, THAT PLACE :-) Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:46 pm | |
| well blagden was a live when arya's father was alive so blagden must be at least 100 years old, probably quite a bit more too. i don't remember exactly. | |
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christlina
Number of posts : 2650 Age : 32 Localisation : in the clouds Registration date : 2007-03-06
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:49 pm | |
| do we know when morzan died? | |
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:09 pm | |
| Probally just a little before Brom arrived in Carvahall which was about 17 years ago in the book! | |
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christlina
Number of posts : 2650 Age : 32 Localisation : in the clouds Registration date : 2007-03-06
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:12 pm | |
| it could be as little as 15 cause eragon is fifteen in the book but it couldnt be over like 20 cause murtagh isnt any older than that...darnit!!!!! its still a mystery! forgot about murtagh*mumbles* so the bird would have known of or known brom and morzan...dammit dammit dammit!!!! | |
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:28 pm | |
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:44 pm | |
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Phoenix
Number of posts : 1772 Age : 34 Localisation : uNiTeD sTaTeS Registration date : 2007-02-09
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:59 am | |
| well morzan couldnt have died more than 15 years ago bc murtaugh can remember him cuz remember morzan gave murtaugh tht scar so it was at most fifteen years if not less | |
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:27 am | |
| yeah.. But i was counting the Eragon and Eldest years too! | |
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christlina
Number of posts : 2650 Age : 32 Localisation : in the clouds Registration date : 2007-03-06
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:25 pm | |
| Wasnt murtagh like three when he got the scar? thats a pretty spiff poem there stapler i didnt know you WANTED eragon to die... i only WANT eragon to die in the movie cause that s the only thing that could save it! ok so we have absolutely no reason to think that brom is eragons father people id like proof! we only have a little speculation like selena knew brom and NO not 'knew' in the biblical sense! | |
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short4life999
Number of posts : 1759 Age : 31 Localisation : NY, USA Registration date : 2007-02-24
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:48 am | |
| go to shur'tugal theres like a million page article written about it proving brom is eragons father. i didnt believe it either til i read it | |
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Stapler
Number of posts : 477 Localisation : Godric's Hollow Registration date : 2007-03-23
| Subject: Re: Eragon's father Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:36 am | |
| Lol, i don't, i went crazy for the few seconds i wrote the poem.... Which is now deleted
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